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Network = Networth
Floating: The entreprenurial journey of Kat Roberts
In this installment of Network = Networth we explore the entrepreneurial journey of Kat Roberts, owner and operator of Surface Float. Born in Mexico, Kat immigrated to Canada with her parents at the age of four; with her arrival came the entrepreneurial drive still present in her today. This episode covers Kat's journey from her childhood endeavour of delivering newspapers to owning one of the largest holistic health centres in Atlantic Canada. Kat also speaks on the importance of learning from others and the benefits that will be seen in both business and life.
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Dalene Allen: Hi, there, it's Dalene Allen. And you're listening to my podcast network equals network. I am absolutely thrilled to introduce you to cat Roberts, her journey of overcoming a significant health crisis ignited her passion for flow therapy. But let me tell you, this woman has been an entrepreneur from a very early age.
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Dalene Allen: Leading her her flow therapy led her to open a biohacking wellness Center in May of 2,020, with focus on helping people reach their full potential and live longer.
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Dalene Allen: healthier lives. The center embodies her commitment to holistic health as an innate entrepreneur with a background in health, promotion, cat was naturally drawn to the industry. In addition to flow therapy, she has built a thriving reiki and sound healing practice, and regularly facilitates energy, healing retreats and workshops. But cat
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Dalene Allen: for anybody who's listening to this podcast go to her website, go to Cat Roberts on Linkedin.
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Dalene Allen: the woman.
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Dalene Allen: Her vitality shines through.
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Dalene Allen: She is a woman.
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Dalene Allen: and not only a woman, but an entrepreneur. Mother for children. Right, Kat, and
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Dalene Allen: your biological age, and what your health age
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Dalene Allen: inspires me
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Dalene Allen: so for anybody in the Fredericton area. Get to the float center so you can look as good as cat.
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Dalene Allen: So, cat. Tell me where the family originated from and how you came to Canada.
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Kat R: Thank you, Dalene, for that beautiful intro. I'm blushing. So I am from Mexico. I was born in Mexico. My family is Mexican.
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Kat R: and when I was 4 years old my parents had a
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Kat R: decided over, probably not an easy decision, but they had decided to leave everything behind and move to Canada. The opportunity arose for them to immigrate, and they took it. And so, from the age of 4 onward, I lived in Canada I had to learn
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Kat R: English and all you know, new kids, new school, everything.
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Kat R: And
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Kat R: yeah, it. It was a beautiful place to grow up. I grew up in Vancouver Island
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Kat R: in a town called Sydney, and then we lived in Victoria for a while, and then moved back to Sydney.
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Kat R: I don't know how how quickly. You want me to go through everything but over the years. We we moved around quite a bit and ultimately ended up here in New Brunswick. After living in the Us. For a little bit.
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Kat R: and Halifax for a large portion of time, and then my partner moved to Fredericton for work. And that's how we ended up here.
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Dalene Allen: Excellent. And so your dad came. Your parents both came from a medical background. Why don't you share how they came to Canada, and how their lives changed
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Dalene Allen: because they weren't less necessarily licensed as medical professionals. Here, I think that's a important story to share.
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Kat R: Yeah, it definitely had a ripple effect on how everything unfolded when they made that decision to leave their life behind their very successful life. So my mother was a medical doctor. She had a thriving family
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Kat R: practice, and she did deliveries as well.
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Kat R: and my father worked for a pharmaceutical company. He was their general manager,
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Kat R: and
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Kat R: when we moved to Canada my mother was not able to use her medical training
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Kat R: as at that time, and I think still to this day a lot of the restrictions are still there, or you know the
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Kat R: foreign doctors can become licensed to practice in Canada. There's a lot of of hurdles to go over. So she, you know, she knew that that was going to be the case, and she decided she made peace with it to in her own way.
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Kat R: And my father decided that he wanted to pursue further education, and he got his
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Kat R: Ph. D. In microbiology and immunology
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Kat R: at Uvik. And that's
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Kat R: ultimately what led to us ending up in Halifax, because when he finished that training, when he was
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Kat R: and also why we ended up in the Us. For his postdoc. For a year and a half
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Kat R: we moved to Halifax so that he could work as a professor at Dalhousie University, which was.
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Kat R: I'm really proud of him. You know. I I remember as a child thinking, oh, my gosh! My father does so much work! He was always at the lab, always coming home, either really elated that his experiments were going great or really crushed when things didn't work out, how he thought they would work out. And it was this, up and down, up and down, and so, from a young age. I knew the challenges that researchers face
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Kat R: yeah, it planted seeds in me, too.
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Kat R: I think, to this day have impacted my work ethic, same as my mother. She had to help him out, so that, you know, keep the the boat afloat at home while he was doing that.
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Kat R: and we somehow made ends meet. But there were. There were many times that
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Kat R: They never, you know, talked about it in when we were around, just maybe to protect us or shield us.
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Kat R: But we like kids, pick up on things, and they know what's going on. So I know that there were times when they were really worried about money, and if we were, gonna have enough money to.
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Kat R: you know, eat and pay the rent, and all the bills and all that stuff. So
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Kat R: and being the oldest of the family, too. I think
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Dalene Allen: So tell us about some of the ways that you made money.
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Kat R: So as a child I had a paper route actually several.
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Kat R: Between me, my brother, and then my mom. We had a thousand papers to deliver
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Kat R: on Wednesdays, and so I hated Wednesdays for a long time. Wednesdays was my enemy, and but we made it work all before we had to start school, like we would get up really early and do that.
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Kat R: and I don't remember for how long we did that, but
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Kat R: as soon as I could do it. It took the course, I think, what? Like 1111, or 12.
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Kat R: jobs like I I had a a job as a lab, sterilizer, so I would go in and collect all the tools and and equipment that needed to be autoclaved and sterilized. So I I did that.
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Kat R: and I also worked at blockbuster when it was still a thing.
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Kat R: and I continue to babysit, I have memories of. I still stay in touch with a couple of the kids because they
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Kat R: I really wanted to be a mom as well, and I knew that from a young age. So I I loved babysitting, taking them to the park and all that stuff.
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Dalene Allen: And so, luckily, because your dad was a profit, Dal, you got a discount on your membership or discount on your tuition, but again you made money and and helped pay for it.
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Kat R: Yes, yeah. So part of the agreement, when I decided that I did want to go to university was that
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Kat R: the my parents would help out with if they offered, you know, like you can stay and live at home, and you don't have to pay rent. But you are going to pay for your tuition and your transportation. So if you're taking the bus, or if you want to use the car, then you have to put gas in the car
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Kat R: and help with insurance and pay your tuition
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Kat R: like, what wasn't discounted. So yeah, I worked. I worked throughout University.
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Dalene Allen: Well, and I'm I'm a big believer in that made you appreciate money even more right?
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Dalene Allen: But you also a dancer, tell us about that.
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Kat R: Yeah. So that's what I did in my spare time. I loved dancing.
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Kat R: I still do. And so when I was 10, I started taking ballet classes, and then that flourished into taking
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Kat R: and I loved it, and when I started to go to university it just became too much.
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Kat R: So I I stopped the
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Kat R: the dance company, but never lost my love for it, and now I just do it for fun in my kitchen, or when my friends have shows I have a lot of friends that
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Dalene Allen: And so you got married, and how many children.
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Kat R: Yeah, I have 4
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Dalene Allen: And so, as you'd said earlier, you wanted to be self-employed. So what were some of the things that you did while you were raising your children.
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Kat R: So I was a life coach. For a while I did that, and it was amazing cause it opened the door for
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Kat R: so it. I also taught my clients the importance of meditation and breathing which can impact our mental, emotional, and physical health.
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Kat R: and then I was a doula for 8 years a birth. Doula taught prenatal classes.
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Kat R: I stopped being a doula, because I got really sick in 2,017.
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Kat R: I was always on call, which means that I never really slept very deeply, because I always had my phone on and
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Kat R: went to sleep thinking, oh, I could potentially get a call at any moment. So you don't.
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Kat R: and I hope to be able to inspire others, to, to believe that, and to believe that they can do that too.
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Dalene Allen: and when I left there, you know, it was kind of like I like hot water like a warm bath. And this is kind of body temperature, isn't it? But you're in this cocoon, and you feel really good. Now I'm a i'm claustrophobic. So I didn't put the top down the complete way. So any of you that are worried about that don't worry. There's always options.
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Dalene Allen: But tell us about all the other things you added from there, because, of course.
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Dalene Allen: and that you keep seeing more and more ways that you're able to help those. Help yourself first, st of course, but when you see the difference in you, how you can help other people.
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Kat R: But we slowly started adding a few more things after we were able to kind of actually open to the full capacity that we could handle.
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Dalene Allen: So tell me about the water.
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Kat R: So the hydrogen water! Our device is a medical device, and so you inhale it. You have these little nasal prongs that you start breathing in the hydrogen. But while you're doing that we can infuse your water. You bring a water bottle, and we infuse it with
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Kat R: Yeah. And I'm really interested to see how what impact it has on my own health, too, with my autoimmune condition
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Dalene Allen: So with your dad in microbiology and immunity.
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Dalene Allen: you must have picked up some tips from him, and odds are possibly he helped you get the job in the lab as a sterilizer. But speak to, I mean, for anybody. Go to the website. This woman has got to have one of the cleanest facilities because she appreciates how important that is. And cat, I let me tell you, I've been to a few places over the years, and you kind of go.
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Kat R: For measure. Yeah, like that. The the owners and the operators of this float place this float center
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Dalene Allen: And it. It certainly shows that it makes a difference. So for any of you lucky enough to be in the Fredericton, New Brunswick area, highly recommend cat, Roberts Center Float Center. You've been listening to network equals network talking to deline, allen thanks for listening to my podcast and cat any last minute things you'd love to share about you or your business, or a tip on networking.
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Kat R: Well, it's been amazing to be part of this team this Bni team I have loved every minute. When I 1st started I had no idea what to expect, but I very quickly, after a few meetings, saw the value of this, and so I'm very appreciative of
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Kat R: all of the people on in my group. And for you, Dalene, thank you for for having me on your Podcast
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Dalene Allen: Thank you. Well, but the truth. Here's the other way. I kind of look at. Yes, massage, therapy, chiropractic. But it's all these other things that you have learned about, that just enhances that
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Dalene Allen: that whole idea of. You know you may not need them all, but until you try them, or try more than what you're currently doing. How will you know if anything could enhance what you're already doing.
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Kat R: that's why I wanted to bring in as as much as I can, and I will continue to add more to our center because you're right, not everything is for everyone. Some people might not enjoy the float. Some people might not enjoy massage. Some people might not like the Sauna, but if they can, you know, pick and choose, and see what helps
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Dalene Allen: Well, you're sure making it easy for people to find something because you got so many options. So again, deline Allen network equals network, everybody's got a story, and I would love to hear yours.